Am I Overstating The Problem?

Let’s try a bit of word substitution.

If you belonged to the state, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the state, but I have chosen you out of the state. That is why the state hates you. (John 15:19)

They are not of the state, even as I am not of it. (John 17:16)

I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the state know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. (John 17:23)

Makes you think doesn’t it? How much should the church expect of the state? How much should the state expect of the church? Who gets to decide? What are the implications of calling our nation or any nation a Christian nation?

3 thoughts on “Am I Overstating The Problem?

  1. Have ever read any books by Walter Wink? He has translated the world (kosmos) as Jesus uses it as the domination system. It would be surprising if you hav’nt.


  2. One implication of calling our nation a Christian one is that Christianity gets a bit of the credit/blame for any good or bad things the state does.
    Another is that Christianity is more attractive to conformist or patriotic people and less attractive to non-conformist. As the latter, my inner response to those who name our country as a Christian one is “Shut up! I am proud of rebelling against the worlds ways and following Jesus, and I want other rebels to follow him too!”


  3. No, I haven’t read Walter Wink but I have long understood “kosmos” to be translatable as “system” or “order”. As I see it, God does not call us to “kaos”, he does not call us into anarchy as popularly understood. But God does call us out of the old order, grounded in enFORCEment and death threats, into a new order, grounded in emPOWERment and life giving life. To those who understand the system of domination as the only legitimate system, this new way can look like a kind of anarchy.


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