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Spend enough time in online discussions about Christianity and you’ll notice a pattern. Many critiques keep returning to Genesis and the first few books of the Bible. Creation, the Great Flood, the Tower of Babel, the laws of Leviticus, and the conquest of Canaan become the lens through which the entire faith is judged. These are important texts, and Christians shouldn’t shy away from difficult questions people have about them. Yet this raises an obvious question: can you really understand Christianity by spending most of your time at the beginning of the story? It’s a little like claiming to understand a film after watching only the opening act. You know the setting, you’ve met some of the characters, and you’ve seen the conflict emerge—but you’ve missed the plot twist. And the whole point of a plot twist is that it changes how you understand everything that came before.

For Christians, that plot twist is Christ. It’s in the name. This isn’t because Genesis suddenly ceases to matter, nor because the Old Testament is discarded. On the contrary, it lays the foundation: the goodness of creation; humanity’s responsibility as God’s image-bearers; the tragedy of sin, suffering, and death; and God’s unfolding covenant with his people. But Christianity has always claimed that these themes find their fullest meaning in Christ. The Gospel of John deliberately opens with the words, “In the beginning…”, inviting us to read Genesis afresh through Jesus. The apostles repeatedly return to Israel’s Scriptures, convinced that they point beyond themselves to the one in whom God has made himself known. Jesus doesn’t simply continue the story; he reframes it the entire story.

That changes everything. Creation is now understood through Christ. Sacrifice is reinterpreted through the cross. Kingship is reimagined through a servant who washes feet. Divine power is revealed in self-giving love rather than domination, and victory comes through forgiveness rather than retaliation. Like any great plot twist, Jesus doesn’t erase the earlier scenes; he reveals what they were ultimately pointing towards. This is why critiques that remain almost entirely within Genesis or the opening books of the Bible often feel incomplete. They may engage the beginning of the story, but they stop short of the moment Christians believe gives the whole story its meaning. Ironically, some Christians do much the same, reading the Old Testament as though Jesus merely confirms their assumptions instead of allowing him to reshape how they understand God, Scripture, power, and even their enemies.

You don’t have to become a Christian to engage Christianity on its own terms. You may read the whole story and still remain unconvinced. But if we’re going to critique any worldview fairly, we should at least allow it to define itself. Christianity does not claim that Genesis is the final word, or even that the first few books of the Bible are the key to interpreting everything else. It claims that the fullest revelation of God is found in Jesus Christ, and that everything before him is ultimately read in his light. If you want to understand Christianity, don’t stop at the opening chapters. Stay for the plot twist.

5 responses to “Bible Reading: Stay for the Plot Twist”

  1. clubschadenfreude Avatar

    “Yet this raises an obvious question: can you really understand Christianity by spending most of your time at the beginning of the story? It’s a little like claiming to understand a film after watching only the opening act. ”

    If your christ is God, then you have a problem that he has no problem with genocide, slavery, and killing people, including children, for things they didn’t do. If this god is supposedly “unchanging’ like many, if not all christians claim, then it is still the same vicious god. You also have the claims in revelation, which also shows a vicious god, that murders all non-christians and has to set satan free to corrupt the christians who are left.

    So, there is no “plot twist” and your religion is just as awful in the new testament as in the old.

    1. Jack.0lson Avatar

      If there is a God, he sets us in a world that has everything we need, but the natural system is brutal, dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest. This does not make God vicious. On the contrary, his garden in Eden was a way of showing us how to bring order to the chaos by thoughtful management. In the meantime, he has been making arrangements for those to wish to live in communion with him, which has evolved from the garden, to the tabernacle, to the temple, to actual embodiment in Jesus, and finally as a spirit that can reside inside us in realtime. Mission accomplished.
      The system may even be set up with a bonus; the hope that this relationship can continue in some form of afterlife, which no one can prove or disprove. Each one of us has the choice. But those who choose the darkness continue to murder and steal.
      This continuation also does not make God vicious.
      We are the vicious ones.

      1. clubschadenfreude Avatar

        If your god created reality to be “dog eat dog” then yes, it is vicious since it intended it that way.

        You then try to claim that this god wanted humans to somehow “tame” reality. That doesn’t work since your god managed to throw a temper tantrum and banish adam and eve from this garden thanks to this god’s failure in either allowing satan in, and not warning adam and eve, or being unable to keep it out.

        This god never showed humans how to do anything. And it also managed to curse everyone for its failure.

        Since christians can’t agre on what their god wants, your claims of this god wanting communion with humans fails since not one of you can agree on what this god wants. Your “communion” fails and all you have are opinions that you can’t support.

        This god failed in the garden, failed with the laws, and failed with jesus since people still can’t agree on what jesus is or what he wants.

        your “mission accomplished” is as much of a lie as Bush tried on that aircraft carrier.

        There’s no evidence of any hope, since Christians can’t even agree on what their heaven or hell are. All of yuo make up what you want and then insist that only you have the “truth”.

        Happily, no one needs your god or your religion to be good and non-christians don’t all murder and steal. It’s notable that your god has no problem with either.

    2. Matt Stone Avatar

      If Christianity really amounts to saying, “God ordered the killing of whole peoples, including children, therefore that violence is good,” then there is indeed a serious moral problem. But that isn’t actually how I understand the biblical story, or what I meant by the “plot twist.”

      The important distinction is between saying that the Bible records God as doing or commanding something and saying that Jesus reveals that thing to be an accurate representation of God’s character. The Bible contains Israel’s developing understanding of God, including texts in which violence is attributed to God. Christianity’s claim is not that every description of God in Scripture is equally clear or equally definitive. Its much more radical claim is that Jesus is the fullest revelation of what God is like. “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father” is a pretty extraordinary statement in that regard.

      That is why I don’t think “God is unchanging” settles the question in the way you suggest. God’s character can be unchanging while human beings’ understanding of God develops. Christians already accept this principle in other areas. We don’t read every Old Testament law as though Jesus simply endorsed it unchanged. Jesus himself repeatedly does this: “You have heard it said… but I say to you.” He doesn’t reject Israel’s Scriptures, but he does reinterpret them around himself. Most significantly, when confronted with violence, Jesus tells his followers to love their enemies, bless those who persecute them, turn the other cheek, and put away the sword. Then he lives that teaching out when he refuses to respond to his own execution with violence.

      Revelation is actually an interesting example of the same problem. I don’t think Christians should simply shrug at its violence, but neither do I think it makes sense to read Revelation as though it were a straightforward description of God personally murdering every non-Christian. It is apocalyptic literature, saturated with symbolism, and its central image of victory is remarkably strange: the conquering Lion is revealed as a slain Lamb. Even the final defeat of evil is presented through the imagery of the Lamb. Whether you find that convincing is another matter, but it is not quite the same picture of God that your comment assumes.

      And I certainly don’t think disagreement among Christians proves that Christianity has no truth to offer. Human disagreement tells us that human beings are fallible interpreters. We disagree about evolution, politics, history, philosophy and almost everything else of importance. That doesn’t mean there is no truth about those things. In fact, I explicitly said in the post that someone can read the whole story and remain unconvinced. I’m not claiming that the “plot twist” magically settles every objection.

      What I am suggesting is something more modest: if you want to assess Christianity, you need to engage with its central claim about Jesus rather than treating its most difficult texts as though they constitute the whole Christian understanding of God. You may ultimately conclude that Jesus doesn’t solve the problem. That’s a perfectly legitimate conclusion. But then the argument is much more interesting, because we’re actually debating the person Christians believe is the clearest revelation of God.

      And there’s a final irony here. You say that Christians don’t need God in order to be good, and I agree that non-Christians can obviously be profoundly good people. Christianity doesn’t have a monopoly on kindness, compassion or moral courage. But that isn’t the claim Christianity makes. Its claim is that goodness itself ultimately has its source in God, and that Jesus shows us what that goodness looks like when it takes human form. If Jesus really is the revelation of God, then the question isn’t whether Christianity has some deeply troubling passages in its Bible. It does. The deeper question is whether the crucified and risen Jesus actually reveals the character of God. That’s the plot twist I’m asking people not to skip.

      1. clubschadenfreude Avatar

        I was a Christian and have read the bible, so yes, it does amount to that. From Genesis to revelation, there is a entire story of a god that demands obedience and if it doesn’t get it, then it has no problem with killing people, and it manages to kill people who did nothing too.

        So your “plot twist” never happens, it was there all along.

        Jesus shows that this god is just as vicious as in the OT when this jesus says bring everyone who doesn’t want me as king and slaughter them (Luke 19). Then in revelation, it does the slaughtering.

        In that Christians cannot and do not agree with jews, your claim of a gradual understanding is quite a false claim. You try to claim that violence is attributed to this god and your bible directly ssays it is doing the violence. Again, I’ve read it and I know you are trying to lie to me. Then hilariously you try to claim not every description is correct, but you can’t explain how you know which ones are “clear” or not. It’s just the ones you personally like, and *every* chrisian does that. Yep, jeus sais if you’ve seen him, you’ve seen the father, so here we go again with the wrathful idiot who causes collateral damage against children, against animals, etc for no reason.
        You don’t like that the bible and your fellow chrisains claim this god is unchanging since you don’t like what that shows, an incoherent book that has no truth in it. If your god can’t get humans to “Correctly” understand it, then it fails to be the omniscient and omnipotentn being you try to claim it is. The misunderstand is this god’s fault, not humans.

        You are right, you ignore old testament law, and forget that jesus supposedly says he is not there to end it, but to put it into place and it must be followed until the earth and heavens end. They haven’t and here you are ignoring your very own jesus. No wonder you Christians can’t do what jesus promises. At best, you can claim that jesus reinterpreted the law, but not that it is ended.

        Revelation also makes quite a problem for christains who say that evil shouldn’t be resisted. Should that book be thrown out? Why can’t chrsiains even agree on what it means?

        As always, christians ignore the bits where jesus uses violence and encourages it. His words are constant contradictions. IF one isn’t to resist an evildoer, what is jesus doing with the whip in the temple?

        you of course don’t like Revelation and are ever so sure that it doesn’t mean what it says. How convenient for christains when all of the bible is like that when they don’t like something. That shows the hypocrisy in the religion.
        So, which version of your contradictory religion is the real one, which is the supposed “truth”? Every single Christian insists that they are the only right ones and consider how not one of you can do what jesus promised to his true followers, your own bible says you are frauds.
        You are simply “suggesting” that you are right and everyone else is wrong; nothing new there. There is no central claim in it and you al worship different jesuses since you can’t even agree on what morals it wants. So, yep, exactly this “But then the argument is much more interesting, because we’re actually debating the person Christians believe is the clearest revelation of God.
        “. You want to ignore the hard parts since they make your religion look as ignorant and vicious as any in the world.
        The only irony is how Christians each thinkg that only they have the right answers. Christians can’t even agree on what “good” is. Christainity does claim to have the only goodness, and it only comes from their god. They can’t show that is true nor agree on what good even is. So that lie fails miserably.

        You can’t claim jesus is the “revelation of god” since you can’t even agree on a god. And from the bible, the true character of this god is of a vicious child who needs stroked off constantly.

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