Curious Christian

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God in the Gutters

Raising myself

I find hell

Lowering myself

I find heaven

3 responses to “God in the Gutters”

  1. Frederick Avatar
    Frederick

    Reminds of the old time story which goes something like this:
    Someone knocks on the gates of heaven and is given the question “who is there”. The person gives an answer which describes his or her self.
    God therefore answers no you cannot enter into “heaven”.
    The process continues via several rounds until the person answers “it is only you” – thereupon the gates of heaven spontaneously open.
    Which is to ask who is either going to “raise” or “lower” their presumed self – the same self is behind or doing the same strategy.

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  2. Dr Don Avatar

    Just came upon this post. I am a Christian counselor and this coomment is off my radar screen? Can someone explain it to me?

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  3. Matt Stone Avatar

    It sounds to me that Frederick is coming at it from a pantheist perspective – denying any distinction between God, the self and other selves. This is not my own view. I think there is an important distinction between raising oneself (dominating others) and lowering oneself (serving others).

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